It is not a violation of the law to own such a weapon, imported legally before the ban, if the owner has the proper permits.
Jack Tilford, owner of the store where Mr. Wesbecker bought the weapon, said in an interview today: ''He was normal in every way. He was clean-cut in the whole nine yards. If he had answered yes to any of the questions, the law says I could not have sold him the gun.''
Mr. Tilford said gun shop owners have no way of confirming the validity of information regarding mental status. 'This Is a Killer Bullet'
Police Chief Richard Dotson of Louisville said the rifle had been loaded with copper-cased 7.62-millimeter bullets, standard military issue for Eastern bloc nations. The copper-cased bullet has a harder head and travels farther and faster than sports or police ammunition, ''This is a killer bullet,'' Chief Dotson said.
As this city mourned the dead in an officially declared hour of silence today, additional details emerged about the weapons and Mr. Wesbecker's state of mind and possible motives. In addition to the 7 people he shot dead, 13 others were wounded, and one remained in critical condition late today.
The weapons found at the printing plant were tested today by the police, who determined that the rifleman had not made the simple adjustments to make them fully automatic. Importing fully automatic weapons was banned more than two decades ago. There is an elaborate Federal registration and transfer procedure for any of those weapons that are still in circulation.
The weapons found at the plant included two semiautomatic MAC-11 pistols; a Sig-Sauer 9-millimeter pistol with which Mr. Wesbecker killed himself, and a snub-nose .38 caliber pistol The weapons were bought at different times; the .38, perhaps the first of his collection, was purchased in 1974. A Gun Cache at Home
The police said Mr. Wesbecker's home yielded other weapons when they searched it Thursday: a shotgun, a Colt 6-millimeter revolver, a .32 revolver and a starter's pistol.
Lieut. Jeff Moody of the Louisville Police said that also among the items confiscated was the Feb. 16 issue of Time magazine, which prominently displayed articles about the Stockton shooting.
Mr. Wesbecker, who was hired by Standard Gravure in 1971, had not worked since August 1988 and was placed on long-term disability leave in February of this year. Manic Depression, Self-Diagnosed But a complaint he filed in May 1987 with Louisville's Human Relations Commission suggests that his problems were of longer standing. In that 1987 complaint, he said the company discriminated against him because of his mental disability. He termed his disability manic depression; a subsequent investigation by the commission confirmed the diagnosis and ultimately found reasonable basis for his charge of discrimination.
The company was never officially charged with discrimination, said Gwendolyn Young, executive director of the Human Relations Commission, but a settlement was reached in January, with the commission mediating.
Ms. Young said Mr. Wesbecker's complaint was that he could not deal with the stress associated with running a mechanical folder, in the printing of advertising supplements. Complaints About Timing
In interviews with the police, his co-workers said that he had indeed complained of the precision and timing that the work involved, and wanted to return to his old job, operating the ink-running wheels.
''The settlement process was not unusual,'' Ms. Young said, ''and as far as we know, the company, without admitting discrimination, agreed to return him to his old position when he was well enough to come back to work.
''The rule in discrimination cases involving mental or physical disabilities is that the employer is required to reasonably accommodate the person and the condition.'' 'They Done Him Dirty'
It could not be determined whether Mr. Wesbecker actually took advantage of the settlement. The company president, Micheal Shea, declined to comment on the complaint Mr. Wesbecker filed, or on any of the reports of Mr. Wesbecker's mental problems.
But Mildred Higgs, Mr. Wesbecker's aunt, was quoted in the The Courier-Journal, Louisville's newspaper, that he still harbored resentments. ''They done him dirty,'' the article auoted her as saying.
Mr. Shea said the company and its 360 employees are in shock. Standard Gravure has closed until Saturday afternoon.Continue reading the main story
Maddie Yates, Teen’s Prozac-induced suicide
Yet another Louisville antidepressant-induced tragedy but certainly not the only one over the past 25 years. How very sad and tragic that they continue this many years later … Maddie Yates, a teen in Louisville, KY has committed suicide on Prozac after posting online that she was going to do so. Louisville, KY, of all places – right where Joseph Wesbecker, on Prozac, went on the 1989 big shooting spree at the printing company where he worked in Louisville, KY thus blowing open the controversy about Prozac and violence.
From my book Prozac: Panacea or Pandora? – Our Serotonin Nightmare, we read about this case: “On September 14, 1989, Joseph Wesbecker blew the lid off the Pandora’s box unveiling one of the most terrible of the paradoxical reactions to Prozac when he walked into his former place of employment, Louisville, Kentucky’s Standard Gravure Corp., took the elevator to the third floor, and as the elevator doors opened, started firing with an AK-47 semiautomatic assault rifle. In what authorities called a ‘blood bath you don’t get over,’ Wesbecker took eight lives and wounded twelve others before taking his own life.”
When the makers of Prozac were sued by the surviving family members of those who lost their lives along with some of the survivors of the shooting spree we were not told, but later learned, the case was a set up to make Prozac appear completely safe and not the instigator of this blood bath. Apparently it worked well in Louisville, KY with few hearing that Judge John Potter was brave enough to spend the next two years proving this case in his courtroom was settled by Lilly in the middle of the trial and then allowed to go to a not guilty verdict. Why? So that Lilly could go on national television bragging that Prozac had been found to be safe and not the cause of this tragic violence.
No one ever knew just how much was paid out on the case, but in one instance Judge Potter found indication of one survivor getting about $50 Million. We do know that it has been reported that during the decade that Mitch Daniels, now the head of Purdue where we recently had another bizarre case of a violent murder by a young man suffering depression, headed Eli Lilly there was a total of ONE BILLION paid out to keep all this controversy about Prozac and violence and suicide quiet.
So here is yet another tragic and senseless death as a result of that silence TWENTY-FIVE years later!!! Although reported as a suicide I say this was NOT suicide! This was murder, premeditated murder! And I will explain why it qualifies as such….
Who is responsible for Maddie’s death and why do I call it a “premeditated” murder?
#1 Eli Lilly, the makers of Prozac, who were told by their own scientists BEFORE Prozac went on the market that the drug itself was actually CAUSING suicide and chose to ignore those warnings and instead chose to blame the suicides on the patient’s “underlying disorder.”
#2 The FDA for issuing the strongest warning possible for increased suicidal ideation for anyone under the age of 25 who takes ANY antidepressant they have ever approved and ANY antidepressant they approve in the future except for Prozac which works like all the rest of them.
#3 The doctor who was stupid enough to give a child this drug when it is in the same family of drugs as all the others with Black Box Warnings for suicide. What is wrong with reading just a little research when a life is at stake – especially a life like Maddie’s that had only just begun?
Everything Maddie lists as her reasons for her death are all commonly reported side effects of antidepressants – the feeling like you are evil or have something evil inside you, cursing and saying hurtful things you do not even remember saying and certainly do not mean to say, and seeing no hope of ever getting better since these drugs only make depression worse, instead of better, because the hypothesis behind the drugs is backwards. Serotonin is NOT low in depression, but elevated. What is low is a person’s ability to metabolize serotonin – exactly what antidepressants are designed to do thus leading to long term worsening of depression.
I repeat, this was premeditated murder and it needs to stop!
I am so sick and tired of seeing these! For 25 years I have spent every penny I had trying to stop it, to get the truth out before more die, but the almighty $$$$ is far too important to those responsible not only for the death of Maddie Yates, but far too many others! How many more are we going to allow them to kill? Yes, I said “allow” because we are condoning these deaths by allowing these drugs to remain on the market and to continue their ridiculous advertising of them.
Maddie Yate’s original story and what she posted online: http://www.buzzfeed.com/tracyclayton/a-high-school-student-committed-suicide-after-posting-a-mess?fb_action_ids=10203407662933182&fb_action_types=og.comments&fb_source=aggregation&fb_aggregation_id=288381481237582
Ann Blake Tracy, Executive Director,
International Coalition for Drug Awareness
Author: ”Prozac: Panacea or Pandora? – Our Serotonin Nightmare – The Complete Truth of the Full Impact of Antidepressants Upon Us & Our World” & Withdrawal CD “Help! I Can’t Get Off My Antidepressant!”
WITHDRAWAL HELP: You can find the hour and a half long CD on safe and effective withdrawal helps here:http://store.drugawareness.org/And if you need additional consultations with Ann Blake-Tracy, you can book one at www.drugawareness.org or sign up for one of the memberships for the International Coalition for Drug Awareness which includes free consultations as one of the benefits of that particular membership plan.
WITHDRAWAL WARNING:In sharing this information about adverse reactions to antidepressants I always recommend that you also give reference to my CD on safe withdrawal, Help! I Can’t Get Off My Antidepressant!, so that we do not have more people dropping off these drugs too quickly – a move which I have warned from the beginning can be even more dangerous than staying on the drugs!
The FDA also now warns that any abrupt change in dose of an antidepressant can produce suicide, hostility or psychosis. These reactions can either come on very rapidly or even be delayed for months depending upon the adverse effects upon sleep patterns when the withdrawal is rapid!
She was planning to participate in a fundraising walk to raise money and awareness for suicide prevention in memory of her friend, Brianna Berrier, who also committed suicide almost exactly one year before Yates’ passing.
facebook.com / Via Facebook: maddie.yates2
Yates and two friends visited Berrier’s grave on April 12, the anniversary of her death, just days before Yates took her own life.
These videos exist in stark contrast to Yates’ final video, simply entitled “Important,” where she speaks emotionally of her love for others and declares herself “not a good person.”
A still from the final video.
The video is a heart-shattering look into her struggle with depression and anxiety. On her decision to commit suicide, she said, “I just don’t see how this is a bad idea,” and described it as the difference between deciding to jump from a burning building or staying in it and dying “a slow, excruciating death.”
“I’ve been like this for so long,” she said, “and there’s still a chance that the worst day might be coming.”
Yates was a writer, some of her work and biographies hint at her struggles.
facebook.com / Via Facebook: maddie.yates2
Her Booksie bio contains the Doug Stanhope quote: “Life is like a movie, if you’ve sat through more than half of it and it’s sucked every second so far, it probably isn’t gonna get great right at the end and make it all worthwhile. None should blame you for walking out early.”
In a poem posted to her Teen Ink page called “Falling Asleep,” she envisions herself as a “cold dead body.”
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